Johanna Adorjan: A practical question: How do two artists work together? Empty canvas. Someone starts. How? What gets discussed and agreed in advance? Albert Oehlen: It works more or less like this interview. Jonathan Meese: Yes, you kick the ball in a certain direction and… AO: …then watch where it goes out of the corner of your eye. JM: And sometimes it comes back. Adorjan: One of you says “Collage!” and then waits to see how the other will react? AO: At the start, we didn’t know what we were going to do. The idea that a collaboration might be worthwhile came from the material Meese had been using. There was a connection. J. Adorjan, “We are a Reproach to Art History: Albert Oehlen, Jonathan Meese,” Rheingold III, Frankfurt am Main, 2005, p. 75